# Attributes and Upgrading

**URL:** <https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/attributes-and-upgrading/1834>\
**Category:** Early Access Game Feedback\
**Created:** [November 21, 2021, 5:14pm UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/attributes-and-upgrading/1834 "2021-11-21T17:14:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![Wokel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3e96dc/32.png) [@Wokel](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/u/Wokel)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2021, 5:14pm UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/attributes-and-upgrading/1834/1 "2021-11-21T17:14:18Z")

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Update 0.35 was released to make upgrading more streamlined - and I personally appreciated that update. That being said, the journey of bringing an item from common to mythic is an incredibly large investment. To me, this investment should be either a more **fair** or **transparent** path for players. I recall we have discussed this before, but I haven’t managed to find the thread.

Here are two QoL/Improvements which would make the journey a lot more rewarding:

- Making the attributes visible from any rarity. This route brings transparency, and would likely lead to people farming for commons looking to fine-tune their equipment and bring a piece of equipment all the way up to mythic. This is personally my favorite option, as it allows players to see what they are investing in.
- Allowing the “rerolling” of attributes (perhaps with the overpriced, yet abundant runes, which you are constantly trying to sell us for 750 crowns).

I am not suggesting both – to me, just one of these would be sufficient.

Another suggestion which I have seen is the removal of “useless” attributes from equipment (I.e., darkpact on a red royal longsword). Just for clarity I want to give my opinion on why I don’t support this idea:

- In some cases, it may work out for our benefit (i.e., firepact on a blue bone ring is currently very situationally useful)
- Future classes may combine multiple colors and therefore make this difficult (i.e., a class based on red and purple)

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**Author:** ![melonfresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/87869e/32.png) [@melonfresh](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/u/melonfresh)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 12:11pm UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/attributes-and-upgrading/1834/2 "2021-11-23T12:11:49Z")

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This bullshit needs to end, what a waste of upgrading materials

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**Author:** ![Mythos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.puzzlequest3.com/mythos/32/338_2.png) [@Mythos](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/u/Mythos)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 12:35pm UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/attributes-and-upgrading/1834/3 "2021-11-23T12:35:29Z")

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Agreed.  
100%  
BUT if you really want to see waste, salvage it for a cents on the dollar return on investment and try again