# Battle pass -- low rewards, high wait time
**URL:** https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/battle-pass-low-rewards-high-wait-time/325
**Category:** Early Access Game Feedback
**Created:** [April 15, 2021, 2:47pm UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/battle-pass-low-rewards-high-wait-time/325 "2021-04-15T14:47:45Z")
**Posts on this page:** 7
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### Author:  [@AmazonJax](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/u/AmazonJax)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2021, 2:47pm UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/battle-pass-low-rewards-high-wait-time/325/1 "2021-04-15T14:47:45Z")
For you to advance just 1 level on the Battle Pass means winning 30 horns. For new players, who need “a key”, that mean waiting until days and days of bounties are collected. Either the rewards should be better, 5 or 10 keys, or the cost to get to the next level should be reduced. I bought the elite. At this rate, I will not again.
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### Author:  [@Tacet](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/u/Tacet)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2021, 4:09pm UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/battle-pass-low-rewards-high-wait-time/325/2 "2021-04-15T16:09:08Z")
With how it is scaled now, all free and paid rewards could be on the free side and it STILL would not be worth it.
Assuming it goes for 60 days, using the one at a time method can average around 8 horns per day (even less if using all 4 tokens at once). That is around 480 horns. Assuming the player can get into 1 pvp tournament 100% of the time in that duration is around 8 times for 48 more horns. That means about 528 horns can be obtained for free using 0 gems, with around 96 more possible if all 3 pvp tournaments could be entered at 100% consistency (which currently 0 people have gotten into the highest tournament so far).
The battle pass takes 900 horns with 528 for free. At an average cost of 50 gems per 2 horns, that comes out to around 186 tasks more that the person would have to do with gems. This makes the current “free” side of the battle pass, as well as the full battle pass on paid side, require 4,650 gems. Every reward combined together currently on the free and paid side are worth less than 4,650 gems.
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### Author:  [@Vangor](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/u/Vangor)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2021, 2:36pm UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/battle-pass-low-rewards-high-wait-time/325/3 "2021-07-18T14:36:59Z")
I’m not sure I understand how the battle pass works. It says to collect Goat horns? or something along those lines, which I have done for both days I have been playing. There seems to be a column that everyone can collect as long as they have enough horns and the other side is for people who buy the pass.(I call this the rocket league model).
The “free” column still seems to cost gems tho…
I bought the first 2 without realizing what I was doing lol.
So is the right side free? Or not?
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### Author:  [@AmazonJax](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/u/AmazonJax)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2021, 2:54pm UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/battle-pass-low-rewards-high-wait-time/325/4 "2021-07-18T14:54:32Z")
Correct. The right side (it says Free Rewards) you get when you collect enough horns (progress guage is on top). The left column of rewards you get at the same time IF you buy the Premium Rewards. Right now, you can only purchase that with crowns, and you only **get** crowns with real money.
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### Author:  [@Vangor](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/u/Vangor)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2021, 3:12pm UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/battle-pass-low-rewards-high-wait-time/325/5 "2021-07-18T15:12:36Z")
So the gem cost is if you want the rewards before you get enough horns?
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### Author:  [@Kings](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/u/Kings)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2021, 3:38pm UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/battle-pass-low-rewards-high-wait-time/325/6 "2021-07-18T15:38:33Z")
correct. you can spend gems to speed up battle pass progression.
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### Author:  [@Tacet](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/u/Tacet)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2021, 7:52pm UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/battle-pass-low-rewards-high-wait-time/325/7 "2021-07-18T19:52:16Z")
Events are coming next patch that should substantially increase the daily/weekly horn rate. However, the actual payout of both sides of the battle pass is pretty low in the current state of the game.