# Changes to Dungeon Chests and Elite Tourneys **URL:** \ **Category:** Early Access Official News\ **Created:** [August 16, 2021, 4:31am UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/changes-to-dungeon-chests-and-elite-tourneys/1266 "2021-08-16T04:31:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Sibelios](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.puzzlequest3.com/sibelios/32/2836_2.png) [@Sibelios](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/u/Sibelios)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 6:20pm UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/changes-to-dungeon-chests-and-elite-tourneys/1266/21 "2021-08-19T18:20:29Z")
> [@Sibelios](#): > > > [@OminousGMan](#): > > > > - There is an increased chance to find Relics and Crystals from Dungeons > > > > > - Iron Chests from Dungeons will now drop Runes, Scrolls, Relics and Crystals. Iron Chests earned outside of Dungeons remain unchanged. > > Glad to see this, should have happened a while ago. Of course, me being a glass half-empty kind of person, it would be nice if this number was quantified. Given that the previous rate was about 0.1% from eligible chests, an increased chance could be 0.2%. Let’s hope its a bit more generous! > [@Sibelios](#): > > So theoretically, the drop rates could have remained the same but the “increased chance” could be the result of Wooden Chests being removed and Iron Chests supposedly being included in the eligible chests. Given the fact that no one has yet communicated that they have found a Relic, it’s beginning to feel like this is the more likely scenario. > [@Salty](#): > > We wanted to push these changes as soon as possible and not leave them for the next update. Thank you for your feedback regarding Dungeon Chests > [@Salty](#): > > Our next update will address a few issues that the community has been communicating. > > - Relics will have more availability to help with upgrading Seeing as the “increased chance” pitched 4 days ago is beginning to look like I described let’s hope the next Relic availability update will actually have measurable results. This current “increase” is basically gaslighting. Feel free to share the before and after drop rate figures to correct me. P.S. This is what happens when you keep using the word “chance” and sticking various adjectives in front. Eventually the word means nothing. Simply publish the actual rates or “chances” for Dungeon Chests and then everyone will know the score; it’s right there on the salvage tooltip so I don’t get why it’s such a mystery other than the developer wants to obfuscate and mislead people. ---
**Author:** ![neonscorpion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a9a28c/32.png) [@neonscorpion](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/u/neonscorpion)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 8:07pm UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/changes-to-dungeon-chests-and-elite-tourneys/1266/22 "2021-08-19T20:07:49Z")
Still not logging back in. Spinning my wheels rolling new characters because it’s the only way to get relics, and I can’t get good enough gear to fight monsters 15-20 levels below my main is just not fun at all. I don’t like feeling like I either must drop tons of cash or do things I don’t want to do in order to progress at all. ---
**Author:** ![Sibelios](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.puzzlequest3.com/sibelios/32/2836_2.png) [@Sibelios](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/u/Sibelios)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2021, 4:55pm UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/changes-to-dungeon-chests-and-elite-tourneys/1266/23 "2021-08-21T16:55:03Z")
> [@Salty](#): > > Our next update will address a few issues that the community has been communicating. > > - We are looking into the difficulty spike. > - We are looking into the increase in time taken to play daily content > - Relics will have more availability to help with upgrading > > We are also looking more broadly at balancing again, and will be addressing this further as we move into world wide release. Adding some issues for you as you “move into world wide release”: - Absence of any meaningful updates to Kingdoms (e.g. no activity tracking, no rewards adjustments for active kingdoms, no revisiting Deals, etc.) - Pervasive lag, disconnects, server restarts - massive issues with resource economy (too many shard types, no means of exchange, too much RNG across content levels, shop deals need better targetting, weapon shards are virtually non-existent, etc) - FOOD! - ORE! - Glyphs are still absurdly rare given the quantity needed - Diamond Chest quality - supposedly this was going to be updated - Balancing should actually be completed given that spells and gear have not been rethought at all (other than spell mana cost); not sure what “looking more broadly at balancing again” means when the first effort is incomplete - Citadel Reset Feature and Citadel stat functionality - Meaningful Stats page (all bonuses of equipped loadout should actually be present in Stats page) ---
**Author:** ![Madnezz119](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Madnezz119](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/u/Madnezz119)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2021, 10:25pm UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/changes-to-dungeon-chests-and-elite-tourneys/1266/24 "2021-08-21T22:25:16Z")
Citadel reset should have happened with the 0.36 update since the patch made drastic impact on spell cost. ---
**Author:** ![Sibelios](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.puzzlequest3.com/sibelios/32/2836_2.png) [@Sibelios](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/u/Sibelios)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 11:37pm UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/changes-to-dungeon-chests-and-elite-tourneys/1266/25 "2021-09-28T23:37:14Z")
> [@OminousGMan](#): > > There is an increased chance to find Relics and Crystals from Dungeons Just thought I would provide an update as one of your more active players: I have done hundreds of dungeon runs since this “update” and I have gotten 1x Tier 1 (Lesser) Relic. Also 0 glyphs. At some point you guys are going to have to do better at incentives for everyday play. It’s so fruitless right now. Although I have increased my Mythic Scroll and Rune count by like 500. Yay? ---
**Author:** ![GodlikeNay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/258eb7/32.png) [@GodlikeNay](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/u/GodlikeNay)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 3:33am UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/changes-to-dungeon-chests-and-elite-tourneys/1266/27 "2021-09-29T03:33:16Z")
> [@Sibelios](#): > > At some point you guys are going to have to do better at incentives for everyday play. It’s so fruitless right now. This is a major issue. I hope the next update includes a bunch of “big wins” that impacts the feeling of the game for daily players. ---
**Author:** ![Tacet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.puzzlequest3.com/tacet/32/51_2.png) [@Tacet](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/u/Tacet)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 3:43pm UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/changes-to-dungeon-chests-and-elite-tourneys/1266/28 "2021-09-29T15:43:37Z")
I just got my 1st ever relic from a dungeon chest today since this change. Epic Priestly Favor from a level 100 diamond Savior chest. Opened minimum 200 dungeon chests since this update to finally get a single 1 that isn’t even a high enough rarity to do anything. Still 0 glyphs from chests, and only 2nd chest relic ever since their existence. Rate of chest relics is less than 1 per month despite 9 chest slots 24/7 opening them. ---
**Author:** ![PiMacleod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4491bb/32.png) [@PiMacleod](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/u/PiMacleod)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 12:14am UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/changes-to-dungeon-chests-and-elite-tourneys/1266/29 "2021-09-30T00:14:01Z")
Sigh… I don’t like being negative… but it’s just honesty. I’m a daily player too. I got a full epic outfit on my Necro, and it’s nearly impossible for me to fight higher things without the equipment/spells necessary. Which means Legendaries! I have 3 of these total, but only one is decent… the Firewalker ring. The other two are Wall of Fire (bleh) and Mask of Terror (pointless without a more guaranteed way of causing Terror more often. So, how do I get better? Constant play? Do I HAVE to pay? I mean… we basically NEED glyphs to evolve our stuff, but they don’t exist, outside of the store. Otherwise, you’re at the mercy of a very skewed RNG. Don’t get me started on how Necros are just harder than Pallys… that’s a different argument altogether. 😉 [Previous page](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/changes-to-dungeon-chests-and-elite-tourneys/1266.md?page=1)