# Epic Runes, oh Epic Runes, Whereforth Art Thou Epic Runes **URL:** \ **Category:** Game Feedback & Ideas\ **Created:** [August 15, 2022, 3:37am UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/epic-runes-oh-epic-runes-whereforth-art-thou-epic-runes/2717 "2022-08-15T03:37:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sibelios](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.puzzlequest3.com/sibelios/32/2836_2.png) [@Sibelios](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/u/Sibelios)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 3:37am UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/epic-runes-oh-epic-runes-whereforth-art-thou-epic-runes/2717/1 "2022-08-15T03:37:41Z")
This has been mentioned numerous time but I will bring it up yet again. The inability to target runes, specifically Epic Runes, is maddening, especially if you have already hit Level 50. The lowest Hunt/Dungeon that you can do is level 35, and Epic Runes are only about 10% of the Runes that are found (Legendary then Mythic are the more commonly found types). This would be easily fixed if Runes were downgradeable (meaning you could use a higher tier rune like Legendary as a substitute for Epic runes). The issue of Epic Runes has been brought up frequently but continues to go unaddressed. Here’s what I found in 5 minutes of searching: Here’s a feedback suggestion earlier this month: > [@Economy and a few suggestions](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/economy-and-a-few-suggestions/2689/1): > > The games biggest problem at the moment is economy. Lopsided overabundance of certain commodities and a dearth of the lower end ones. We need a better method of trading in what we don’t want for commodities that we want. Eveline was a great way for us to trade for relics we wanted. We need something similar for trading in our minion glyphs for any other glyph or for trading for epic runes or scrolls. I brought this up before back in April: > [@Quality of Life Adjustments](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/quality-of-life-adjustments/2332/13): > > > [@Quality of Life Adjustments](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/quality-of-life-adjustments/2332/1): > > > > Lots of minor tweaks to chest drops. Mainly more items used for evolving Gear and Spells (eg. Scrolls, Runes, Relics) from dungeon chests & more shards from skirmish chests. > > The frequency of seeing Mythic Runes/Scrolls and Superior Shards is still way too high for content levels, with these items still showing up in Chests as low as 35. Please either make evolve and upgrade materials downgradeble or reconfigure the drop rate spread allocation to reduce the frequency of top tier mats when epic and legendary levels are more prized Another player brought up the same issue around the same time: > [@Need some QoL improvement on evolve materials](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/need-some-qol-improvement-on-evolve-materials/2344/1): > > This problem happens when we can only loot Lv30+ chests. We will get mountains of mythic materials, some legendaries materials, and, sometimes epic or lower level laterials. This is weird, we need a balanced drop rate, not give us tons of mythic, which is useless in most situation. > This problem is still unsolved after recent QoL hotfix. More epic, less mythic please. > > OR: add a new function, let us use superior materials to replace the inferior one. > example: if I tried to evolve an armor without enough proper rune, pop such window: “you have no enough epic runes. Use 3 mythic or legendary runes to proceed?” and let us choose which one to spend. He brought it up again in May: > [@Some random suggestions and thoughts for QoL improvement](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/some-random-suggestions-and-thoughts-for-qol-improvement/2438/1): > > Most of them are evolve mats related stuff… Some season objective is impossible to do. > No kingdom-related stuff due to incoming kingdom revamp. > > 1: Evolve mats drop is still too weird. Chests above Lv35 drop mountains of mythic and a few epic. This doesn’t fit player’s demand. Please adjust their drop rate. reverse the chance of mythic and epic may prove good. > 2: If above is not possible, allow us to use superior evolve mats when we have no enough lesser one. > 3: If both 1 and 2 are not possible, double or triple the chance we get runes/scrolls when salvaging stuff. Here is me back in August of 2021: > [@Shop Talk 0.36 Edition - Thoughts on Daily Deals, Limited Offers, and Currencies](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/shop-talk-0-36-edition-thoughts-on-daily-deals-limited-offers-and-currencies/1209/3): > > Also, the real limitation right now going forward is going to be Epic Runes/Scrolls. These are still far too rare; a corollary to the shard situation. Again, make Runes/Scrolls downgradable. A Level 50 chest is primarily populated with Mythic Runes/Scrolls Drops and a Tier VI Dungeon Event is still giving Uncommon/Rare Runes/Scrolls. There are too many of these type and virtually no Epic Runes/Scrolls to be reliably found! ---
**Author:** ![rob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@rob](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/u/rob)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 4:23am UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/epic-runes-oh-epic-runes-whereforth-art-thou-epic-runes/2717/2 "2022-08-15T04:23:59Z")
I’ve spent nearly a week and a half trying to get Epic Runes for 2 upgrades. I’ve gotten 2 of 6 needed. The lowest level I can fight is 35, so I cannot farm at an appropriate level. please send help. ---
**Author:** ![Zudaio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.puzzlequest3.com/zudaio/32/1452_2.png) [@Zudaio](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/u/Zudaio)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 2:54pm UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/epic-runes-oh-epic-runes-whereforth-art-thou-epic-runes/2717/3 "2022-08-15T14:54:41Z")
Drops act like the end game is at level 50 when it seems to be actually at level 100…since those dungeons exist. Please scale drops according to what I think most players would find to be reality and double the intended level for such drops (mythic runes and such drop near 100 instead of near 50, for example). ---
**Author:** ![Sibelios](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.puzzlequest3.com/sibelios/32/2836_2.png) [@Sibelios](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/u/Sibelios)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 2:54am UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/epic-runes-oh-epic-runes-whereforth-art-thou-epic-runes/2717/4 "2022-10-27T02:54:45Z")
Sad that Darkhunter didn’t at least get the option in Update 1.4 that was teased in the September Community Update of choosing at least between a Rune and a Scroll. ---
**Author:** ![Nurp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.puzzlequest3.com/nurp/32/2348_2.png) [@Nurp](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/u/Nurp)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 11:11am UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/epic-runes-oh-epic-runes-whereforth-art-thou-epic-runes/2717/5 "2022-11-23T11:11:09Z")
The Darkhunter update is now live in 1.4.5, but having crafted a _lot_ of random runes since then, I haven’t once had a Rare Rune, they’ve all been higher. I’m working on some new PvP gear sets, but they’re all stuck at uncommon. So frustrating. ---
**Author:** ![Namodias](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.puzzlequest3.com/namodias/32/2846_2.png) [@Namodias](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/u/Namodias)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 2:58pm UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/epic-runes-oh-epic-runes-whereforth-art-thou-epic-runes/2717/6 "2022-11-23T14:58:38Z")
I am honestly tempted to leave my darkhunter at 35 just for this reason. I had lagged behind on leveling him because I just never seemed to get the drops I needed on his follower crystals and now I am glad! This has to get fixed. It cannot stay this way because you are just punishing the players who are the ones that are sticking with you! Sibelios has proposed the easiest fix for this situation and that is just let us use higher level runes as substitutes for lower level ones when we are upgrading, it is not that hard omg! ---
**Author:** ![Pallegina](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.puzzlequest3.com/pallegina/32/2759_2.png) [@Pallegina](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/u/Pallegina)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 7:53am UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/epic-runes-oh-epic-runes-whereforth-art-thou-epic-runes/2717/7 "2022-11-24T07:53:21Z")
My Darkhunter is at 15 and primarily crafts Epic Runes. 🤷‍♀️