# Reflect and pvp loss

**URL:** <https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/reflect-and-pvp-loss/4214>\
**Category:** Game Discussion\
**Created:** [January 4, 2024, 2:26am UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/reflect-and-pvp-loss/4214 "2024-01-04T02:26:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Santandrix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.puzzlequest3.com/santandrix/32/3979_2.png) [@Santandrix](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/u/Santandrix)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 2:26am UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/reflect-and-pvp-loss/4214/1 "2024-01-04T02:26:42Z")

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So is it working as intended, that in pvp when i kill someone and they have reflect on and it kills me back it counts as a defeat?  
When they drop first.  
This makes no sense.  
So is it working as intended @Jeto?

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**Author:** ![HigureTheStillWind](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.puzzlequest3.com/higurethestillwind/32/3149_2.png) [@HigureTheStillWind](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/u/HigureTheStillWind)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 8:59am UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/reflect-and-pvp-loss/4214/2 "2024-01-04T08:59:19Z")

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> [@Update 2.4 Patch Notes](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/update-2-4-patch-notes/4045/1):
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> Reflect can be triggered after an enemy is defeated- this can cause a loss with the player taking reflected damage before the battle resolves

It is part of the Known Issues of 2.4 Update notes.