# To RNG or not to RNG, that is the question: Gemka Reforge **URL:** \ **Category:** Game Feedback & Ideas\ **Created:** [February 25, 2023, 1:26am UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/to-rng-or-not-to-rng-that-is-the-question-gemka-reforge/3265 "2023-02-25T01:26:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![AeonNhiyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@AeonNhiyr](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/u/AeonNhiyr)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 1:26am UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/to-rng-or-not-to-rng-that-is-the-question-gemka-reforge/3265/1 "2023-02-25T01:26:35Z")
- I had a bounty of gems, so I thought I’d reforge the attributes of my new mythic royal ring. - I reforged a 3 or 4 times before I finally kept one of the configurations. - Because I still didn’t really like the one I kept, I thought I’d try one more time for something better - However, the very next reforge gave me the EXACT same configuration that I had **just given up** , LOL. Here’s a screenshot (although I didn’t think to screenshot the very very initial config): ![Screenshot_20230224_091707_Puzzle Quest 3](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/puzzlequest3/original/2X/e/e18d334eb57b7a2650dd070f2e666add53c9f3b2.jpeg) Is this expected behavior? I mean, out of all the permutations of traits that I could have ended up with, what’s the likelihood that I’d end up with the **exact same configuration** that I had **just given up** not more than ten seconds earlier? ---
**Author:** ![KerGiz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@KerGiz](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/u/KerGiz)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 7:48am UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/to-rng-or-not-to-rng-that-is-the-question-gemka-reforge/3265/2 "2023-02-25T07:48:05Z")
It happened with me also reforging my dragonguard ring. ---
**Author:** ![Jeto](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.puzzlequest3.com/jeto/32/6326_2.png) [@Jeto](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/u/Jeto)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2023, 9:43pm UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/to-rng-or-not-to-rng-that-is-the-question-gemka-reforge/3265/3 "2023-02-26T21:43:55Z")
Just to follow up, was the configuration of these attributes in the **exact** same slots as well, or were they the same attributes but in a different place? ---
**Author:** ![AeonNhiyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@AeonNhiyr](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/u/AeonNhiyr)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2023, 4:25am UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/to-rng-or-not-to-rng-that-is-the-question-gemka-reforge/3265/4 "2023-02-27T04:25:51Z")
@Jeto if I remember correctly, same exact attributes, but different slots ---
**Author:** ![Jeto](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.puzzlequest3.com/jeto/32/6326_2.png) [@Jeto](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/u/Jeto)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2023, 4:40am UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/to-rng-or-not-to-rng-that-is-the-question-gemka-reforge/3265/5 "2023-02-27T04:40:35Z")
If it was different slots, I do think this is RNG as we have things in place to prevent something that has been rerolled from appearing again in the exact position? I have a vague memory… > [@Reforging Scammers Anonymous](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/reforging-scammers-anonymous/2992/3): > > there is a chance after rerolling in a different slot (not the same slot) you could get the same attribute, I have passed this onto the team to look into if this can changed to prevent duplicate attributes across all slots. AH HA! I do go on to mention > [@Reforging Scammers Anonymous](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/reforging-scammers-anonymous/2992/5): > > you shouldn’t get the same attribute in the same slot but you _could_ in another. So yes, you can get the same attributes in different slots but I’ll follow up if there is any update on preventing the same attributes in a different slot! ---
**Author:** ![KerGiz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@KerGiz](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/u/KerGiz)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2023, 5:38am UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/to-rng-or-not-to-rng-that-is-the-question-gemka-reforge/3265/6 "2023-02-27T05:38:25Z")
My situation was: original: very useless attributes (I don’t remember, mostly color bonuses, not my colors) first reforge: something better, but still very little value for me - accepted the reforged item second reforge (right after the first): the very same original attributes. I believe it was the same order as the original, and it doesn’t trigger any constraints, because it was not the same as before the actual reforge, but the one before it…