# Upgrading followers **URL:** \ **Category:** Early Access Game Feedback\ **Created:** [August 10, 2021, 1:35pm UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/upgrading-followers/1233 "2021-08-10T13:35:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sharrit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecc23a/32.png) [@Sharrit](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/u/Sharrit)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2021, 1:35pm UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/upgrading-followers/1233/1 "2021-08-10T13:35:31Z")
I’m not very far in the game yet, so this may change with the other followers, but upgrading Eveline and Toragon seems like a disadvantage: they give you the same stuff but it costs more ore. I was expecting the ore cost to drop as I upgraded them. ---
**Author:** ![Tacet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.puzzlequest3.com/tacet/32/51_2.png) [@Tacet](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/u/Tacet)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2021, 1:52pm UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/upgrading-followers/1233/2 "2021-08-10T13:52:39Z")
There is an invisible rarity drop rate increase every level. ---
**Author:** ![Sauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Sauron](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/u/Sauron)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2021, 6:20pm UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/upgrading-followers/1233/3 "2021-08-10T18:20:04Z")
It would be very nice to get numbers here btw… ---
**Author:** ![Sibelios](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.puzzlequest3.com/sibelios/32/2836_2.png) [@Sibelios](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/u/Sibelios)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2021, 6:42pm UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/upgrading-followers/1233/4 "2021-08-10T18:42:08Z")
Since the developers have decided to obscure a lot of drop data, the only numbers players have is based on observation. To get reasonably accurate estimations of these undisclosed drop rates rates you need hundreds of observations which is unrealistic for the followers at lower levels because they soon ascend to higher levels. ---
**Author:** ![Sauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Sauron](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/u/Sauron)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2021, 7:00am UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/upgrading-followers/1233/5 "2021-08-11T07:00:22Z")
Actually, I mean the game should show them. There are drop rates for chests in dungeons for instance, why not adding additional ones to make the player feel some kind of improvement? ---
**Author:** ![Avenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Avenger](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/u/Avenger)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2021, 10:23am UTC](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/upgrading-followers/1233/6 "2021-08-11T10:23:14Z")
This is a helpful guide to look through / watch the video running through each of the followers and assessing their relative strengths. > [@All 15 Follower Guide and Tier List](https://community.puzzlequest3.com/t/all-15-follower-guide-and-tier-list/584): > > I just covered a guide on YouTube going over all the followers as of version 0.34 in Puzzle Quest 3. Went over upgrading priority, what they do, and an overall tier list for all of them. [[Puzzle Quest 3: Follower Tier List and Guide] ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrNauhDCdug) For any that just want to see the tier list itself, here it is: The video further elaborates on most of their placement. They are also based on the current state of the game and on first 0-500 hour usefulness, as many of them by 1000 hour… Updates to the game will shift the importance or relative value of different followers when prioritising who to spend food and gold on, but you will likely quickly hit the point where it is follower crystals that become your limiting factor rather than not wanting to upgrade them higher. As of 0.36 we just really hope something is done to increase the ore rate, as there is currently not much point having 9 followers that can craft thing using ore, but have so little ore production that you can struggle to keep 1 or 2 active.