Ok, that is closer to my experience. Thanks for the clarification
Daddy im sure you been in my dungeon runs, never mind doing a dungeon run in under 60 seconds , ive been soloing all 6 enemies in coop in under 60 seconds and many have witnessed it for them selves, one reason i dont share my build is as iv put alot of time and resourses in experimenting different things to just give it away
Level 200 dungeons are doable in under 60 seconds but deffo not consistantly in all events, deffo doable with the right buff modifiers tho
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Why not sharing?
Frankly I love this game because of a great community, my team â13â, and Odins discord team. And the biggest power of this community is knowledge sharing.
Noone will be able to copycat your build one to one, but maybe it will spark some interesting combos etc for other peopleâs projects.
Itâs never a loss to share knowledge with padawans
Weâve already learned what happens when you share succesful teams on playstation. I agree in helping to a certain extent but sometimes peopls have to great creative on their own and work together as a kingdom.
We canât make it too easy on our competition.
Gem Raiders is number 1 on playstation.
Weâd like to keep it that way.
For those that are inflamed that easily I agree. If you are a logic over emotion kind of person, then challenging someone to prove what they say, because you doubt them, is in no way shape or form inflammatory.
I am pretty direct and convey my point effectively.
I apologize if I offend any of you, it is not my intention. I hope there is no group of people who specifically choose to take offense.
Taf does share, just not with everyone. Iâve had a similar build to his from the start, although mine has always had a bit more of a defensive edge on it whereas his is a bit more glass cannon. But we talk about strategy and how various gear and spells impact the load-out from time to time. And I think weâve both influenced each otherâs build to a certain extent. Pretty much everyone has their own unique spin on it at this point. So many good options available and only so many you can choose for one load-out. I dare say if everyone in Gem Raiders (and outside of Gem Raiders) posted their build on this, they would all be different anyway. So by not always sharing (even though its fun to share) it helps to spark creativity as opposed to everyone running copy and paste load-outs. I think if youâre doing the work and genuinely showing interest in a particular load-out that people will help you out with it, should you ever need the help. Regardless of whether they show you all their secrets or not. Even just for myself I have a different load-out for every different game mode in the game.
Maybe somebody else who wants to share with others outside of their kingdom can start a community chat for PS PQ3 players?
It is definitely possible, so long as your load-out tailored for it.
Hmmm, yeah I remember you joining my party as I was carrying someone, and I ended up carrying you as well for the first few matches. Why you wanted to clock me Iâm not sure. You werenât the only one killing multiple enemies if memory serves me right, but yes you are fast in the format we played Taf. Twice in the last 2months is all we played, but you are always welcome to join.
Devs have done a great job fixing alot of the weaker sets. Fae Touch Dreamhold for example is a powerhouse set now and probably underrated by many players. Its a great choice for new players too because of the Dreamhold Adventure giving you all the mythic relics you need to max the set. It used to be everyone was running the same sets, Guard and Royal for KD, now weâre seeing alot more diversity, which is healthy for the game and makes it much more fun to play.
Idk what happened when teams shared on PlayStation, but by not sharing we lose more players faster. Yes this is good for Gem Raiders, but it isnât good for any other kingdom on PS. Santa, you may have your wish one day and always be first when you are the only oneâs left playing.
Grow the game maybe by sharing, or try to control the flow of information to the best of your ability even if it hurts the game.
This is what I see happening in PS. Either way I congratulated you for your epic season, but it doesnât mean itâs good for game. Doesnât mean itâs necessarily bad either, just my opinion.
One of the main reasons I feel so free to share info is that the way the game is designed, it shouldnât really affect much the Kingdom leaderboards. In the end, crests are obtained just by winning battles, it doesnât really count strenght, level or skill. Sure, the stronger you are the easier it is to get a lot of crests while clearing high level content, making crest farming a more profitable activity. But in the end, a newer player can still get more crests than a veteran player by just playing low level fast battles once and again.
In fact, this is one of the reasons why I donât give that much importance to Kingdom leaderboards. In the end, they just show which Kingdoms have the most active players, not the most skilled or the strongest. I do admit that it always feels nice to get a good position. But in my opinion what makes a Kingdom be a good one is not the position it is in, that just indicates how active it is (which is a good thing of course). But the key strenghts of a kingdom are primarily KD tier, bazaar and ingot management and sharing and helping within.
If any player was to ask which kingdoms are the best, I would not just look at the leaderboards. I consider all kingdoms with max tier KD and a good management to be top Kingdoms, with little difference between themselves. Higher position means better end of season rewards, sure, but even being 1st you only get the equivalent to 18 gems a day. So from my point of view, leaderboards are just there for some light competition, personal satisfaction on a job well done and of course, bragging rights . Getting all our 3 Kingdoms in the top 10 this season has been amazing, indeed, but I would still consider them to be the best kingdoms even with lower placement.
So I truly believe that sharing wouldnât really affect your position in the leaderboards. Now, crest gathering does seem to be related to player strength, since most of the strongest players are usually at the top Kingdoms. It is true that the stronger you are the easier it is to get crests, since weaker players will usually prioritize getting stronger over getting crests. And the leaderboard positions do help attracting players and keeping the kingdom at the top. So I wonât be completely disregarding your caution, particularly because there are other modes where the competition is fiercer and giving hints to opponents can hurt yourself (PvP and Events). It is your decision and you have all the rights to do so
I just wanted to point out that the great place you are standing at wouldnât be probably shaken by sharing info with other players and kingdoms. At Odin we have been 1st in the mobile/Steam/Xbox server for nearly 2 years even when sharing everything. Some of our strongest builds (including the one I use for events) are described in the guides available to all, but we and you are still there on top. That must mean something
@HigureTheStillWind,
I just want to say great point you have there.
Now I do share info to dark haven our sister kingdom and be sure to help a player get in the right direction early on.
Just donât tell me boss
But as they are full now, we could almost use 3 kingdoms as one of the kingdoms usually havd someone waiting to join.
And I do like to help players to the certain extent in the community or help them out privately.
Iâm all about being a team and community player.
I always say to our guild that giving back and helping each other is all I ask.
And those players that we do help do the same for the next players.
Like right now all our second generation members are helping run coop for the 3rd generation and so on, while players like @Swivel and @Kushcloudz1clips are busy shattering events.
Itâs a great feeling indeed.
Youâre right.
Top of boards means not too much other than the best part is 1000 gems at the end of the season.
Both our kingdoms do have top dragon, bazaar and all other bases covered too.
So itâs good to see we are up to par with the best of them.
I didnât know if this belonged in a pm or on the topic but I felt like maybe i needed to clarify to the community more too.
I wonât really get into why i had such a bad experience with sharing personal builds but itâs not good.
Basically you just farm faster than most. And that also takes not only the build but the mental capacity too.
Anyways Iâm just rambling at this point and Iâll wrap it up.
Sorry if i seemed a bit arrogant with that last post.
I try my best to stay humble.
However, I do like to have our kingdom specialties.
I still believe it gets people wanting in.
Thanks for reading.
Sorry bout the long post.
And back to the topic on the record, itâs nice to see in that picture 6 of the 9 players are Gem Raiders.
You guys rock!!!
Keep up the great work
@GNOM and @MrMuddyPaws youâre always welcime here.
@daddy5003 keep up the good work. I also offered a place to you, but you declined. All good.
How cool would that screen shot of been all 9 GR.
KUDOS to all involved in that SS who made such a great effort to put up those numbers.
Congrats @Kushcloudz1clips and @Swivel, @mucke124, what records will you go for next?
I donât find you arrogant. I find you proud of your Kingdom and its achievements, which isnât a bad thing at all. I just wanted to give you my views on why I believe that sharing info (usually) doesnât hurt and, on the contrary, it is a good thing. But I do know some people arenât completely happy about it and with solid reasons. A great kingdom mate makes sure to remind me that sharing too much info can have some bad sides, for example inhibiting creativity (players are less likely to design their own builds if they have âwinningâ builds available to copy paste). And you seem to have personal bad experiences with sharing info, which makes your caution more understandable.
So this is not a discussion of who is right and who is wrong, but just us discussing our views on sharing info in hope of getting wiser and understanding the game and its community better. This is how discussions should be, an opportunity to give our opinion, listening to othersâ and help each other learn and grow. And then do whatever we want, without anyone judging us for it (as long as we respect each other, of course).
People who generally call Gems Raiders arrogant are just jealous of the progress weâve made. I always say envy is the greatest recognition, so everything was done right, Sanđ
The reward is extremely lackluster agreed i really think a crest shop of sorts or a treasury type deal where leaders can send gifts and such would be a great addition and give a actual reason to grind crests other than seasonal placement imho
A group is very rarely arrogant as a whole. Individuals however are more likely to be accurately deemed arrogant. Most of the time in any competition there is more arrogance among members of the best team than there are among members of the worst.