With the release of 3.0 I have seen that the calculations for spell damage has been updated with a really nice improvement. Until not, the general spell damage calculation was the following one:
Spell damage = level x level multiplier + power x power multiplier + mastery x mastery multiplier.
Most level multipliers are around x2, so the effect going from level 1 to 50 had on damage was negligible: a difference between 2 points of damage at lvl 1 and 100 points of damage at lvl 50. With the release there has been a nice fix for this. Current spell damage calculation is:
Spell damage = level ^ 1.9 x level multiplier + power x power multiplier + mastery x mastery multiplier.
This change means that now for a spell with x2 level multiplier the effect of leveling up is much more significant: a difference between 2 points of damage at lvl 1 and 3,381 points of damage at lvl 50. This is a great change that not only strengthens our spell builds (currently overshadowed by skull critical builds) but also makes leveling up spell books more useful.
However, since this change is also applying to enemies a huge problem as arisen: enemy level goes up to lvl 100, which means that the spells of max level enemies now do a whooping of around 12,419 extra damage! 3 examples from lvl 98 enemies:
Plague-Taster’s noxious spray: has gone from doing 20,512 damage to 27,680 damage, a 35% increase in damage.
Skeleton’s wake the dead: has gone from doing 25,910 damage to 37,858 damage, a 46% increase in damage.
Arboleth’s dark tentacle: has gone from doing to doing 56,866 to 74,788, a 32% increase in damage.
I am a veteran player with an all lvl 50 mythic build. Pre 3.0 I had 21,980 resistance and post 3.0 after honing pieces a lot, I have 25,312 resistance. That means a 15% increase in resistance.
So if the resistance of a veteran player has increased only in 15% but max level enemy spell damage has increased in 30-50%… @Jeto I believe this is something worrying, due to the 3.0 gear rework lvl 100 battles have become much more important for the extra values from chests, but the spell damage changes have clearly made them much more difficult, specially for mid players. I believe this is not an intended change, just the result of the new damage formula being applied to enemies as well. But the result is that lvl 100 enemies are now much more powerful and not compensated by the power boost from 3.0 gear rework. I would like to ask you to look into this, evaluate its implications and discuss the possibility of doing something to avoid players having a more difficult time than they should. Thank you for your time and attention.
Spells from the enemies are definitely too violent now, it’s made autoplay even less reliable than it was VS lvl100 monsters for me, and I have pretty high resistance but I can get evaporated from spells the enemies can fill with 3 gems like Wake the Dead from the ch15 skeleton.
Shameless bump, can we hope some balancing on this topic please? Really tired of getting 1hit KO’d by a non elite monster spell that fills with 4 blue gems (wake the dead), there are many spells from monsters that are similarly OP but at least some of them take a while for the enemy to fill them.
Wouldn’t matter much, because at high difficulties the assistance the AI receives via absurdly generous skyfalls would all but guarantee that a spell repriced to 500 mana spell would still fill in a single turn most of the time.
The fact that this even happens at all on the AI side to warrant “difficulty” screams volumes that a major rebalance is needed because the state of PvE is very broken (on both sides of the board) currently. It’s one-shot or be one-shotted in most high Difficulty encounters post 3.0, which both sides can do with relative ease (with a meta PvE build).
New content can’t even really come out until the devs fix this because the situation only gets worse from there, further enforcing the one-shot or be one-shotted mentality which is very bad for the health of the game.
That said, if the compensation threads over the last two update’s core game challenges were Legendary in scope, the ones for the needed changes on both sides of the PvE system to bring it back to any sort of semblance of near-balance are going to be outright Mythical in comparison.
Hey all, I’m not sure if this has been addressed elsewhere already as I’m just popping in to help out on the forum a bit more since we’ve had all the holidays - so please excuse me if you’ve already heard back about this feedback!
I just wanted to let you know I’ve mentioned this feedback to the team and they were very interested for the details which I’ve done a full report on for them.
We’ll follow up on it once the team have had a chance to read, discuss and consider the feedback.
Thank you especially to @HigureTheStillWind for the detailed write up and to everyone who contributed additional details and your experiences.
I don’t believe this was addressed until now, so thanks for taking it up to the team. The increased enemy spell damage is being rough for a lot of players, specially for single spell enemies that easily fill their spells, like the skeleton.
Thanks for the answer, it had not been acknowledged yet that’s why I bumped the thread because spell damage on the enemy side really need some tuning since the gear rework.
(level 100 dungeon)
